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        <description>*  Seismic noise: include long term variations. 

 Previous short term studies:



 Recent long term measurement, preliminary, Sos Enattos, 480 days:



Further info: &lt;https://mydrive.kfki.hu/f/7010f295a0/&gt; and &lt;https://mydrive.kfki.hu/f/7aee233cf4/&gt;</description>
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        <description>(Stefan, Benno, Bryan, Andrew, Sean, Marina)

Motivation

Why xylophone

	*  Concept proposed to avoid conflict between high frequency and low frequency design compromises (high/low optical power, thermal, quantum noise, etc)

Question: Do we still need the xylophone?</description>
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        <description>See materials and suspension page for comments</description>
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        <description>Set of slides can be found [here]

Open questions / other approaches:

	*  Can we get aSi-based coatings &lt;1ppm absorption?

	*  120 K operation? Some more work needed. Silica loss potentially lower than at 10 / 20 K (depending on annealing state). Cooling by radiation, less limited by heat extraction. Less TN benefit from cooling.</description>
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        <description>Suggestions for discussion in plenum

	*  Required software tools for further modelling
		*  GWINC?
		*  Logbook?

	*  Should investigate single L?
	*  Should investigate single broadband 120K design? (simpler , realistic on shorter times, while still good LF frequency potnetial). How much time and money can be saved if we go for single 120K detector.
	*  Would is needed to get onto the ESFRI roadmap? technical design? Budget? Sensitivity? decision xylophone vs single detector?
	*  Step 1) conso…</description>
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        <description>We will use team speak for the telecons together with slides posted on the wiki.

Teamspeak details are

	*  server: zam.mit.edu
	*  password: la$er
	*  channel: ET 

Future telecons

Telecons are usually held on every second Wednesday of a month, 4pm-5pm CET, 3pm-4pm  UK time.</description>
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Material

*  Brief introduction and review of the scaling of alignment noise coupling with arm cavity beam size, Andreas Freise 06.12.2017:</description>
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        <description>Published articles

Simulations of long cavities

Related literature since the ET design study, focusing on simulation with realistic mirrors (not about the table top experiments):

	*  Higher order Laguerre-Gauss mode degeneracy in realistic, high finesse cavities by C. Bond et al, 2011 link
	*  Effects of mirror aberrations on Laguerre-Gaussian beams in interferometric gravitational-wave detectors by T. Hong, 2011 link
	*  Reduction of higher order mode generation in large scale gravitational …</description>
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        <description>Introduction

Different properties of ET scale differently depending on the length - some even in opposite directions - so there is in principle an optimum length. Apart from the obvious ones like noise and sensitivity, the length also has a big impact on the cost. Longer arms need bigger beams in order to avoid having highly divergent beams, too. This is an attempt to list the constraints on length to allow us to arrive at the optimum.</description>
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        <description>home

This page collects work on tasks related to Parametric Instabilities and Arm Cavity Alignment Instabilities, and is more broadly to the optical design of the arm cavities.

General considerations:

	*  starting with ET HF but consider a Voyager-like (no Xylophone, 120k) alternative for comaprison</description>
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        <description>ET Low-Frequency Quantum Noise

(Daniela, Jennifer, Haixing, Omar, Peter, Vaishali, Sebastian)

Summary &amp; Next Steps

	*  keeping ET-LF+HF, we have the option of increasing the low-frequency sensitivity significantly by using dynamic detuning or unstable filters
	*  GWINC model to be finished
	*  what would be the requirements for such a filter?
	*  is background collection / sensitivity calibration an issue?</description>
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        <description>main selling points for as low frequencies as possible:

	*  early warning with sky localization for EM followup thanks to early SNR buildup. ~1000s-10ks
	*  IMBHs/IMRIs with higher total masses (&gt;1000Msun) and up to high redshifts -&gt; cosmic history of SMBH seeds
	*  Long inspiral gives highly improved CBC parameter estimation even with just small SNR gains, breaking degeneracies with precession and higher modes, constraining ellipticity before it is completely radiated away. -&gt; formation channe…</description>
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        <description>Currently, we have punctual measurement at different sites following local initiatives. Using a model, geological maps, population densities, distance to the seas,... would it possible to have a map of Europe with the sites with the lowest 
seismic noise (or another figure of merits).
Of course, that would have be confirmed with local measurement.</description>
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        <description>Einstein Telescope Design Update Workshop at Glasgow, September 2017


Slides From Plenary Presentations

	*  Karsten Danzmann:
	*  David Shoemaker:  aLIGO experience in the context of ET
	*  Sheila Rowan: [Worldwide co-ordination towards a 3G network]
	*  Jo van der Brand:
	*  Salvatore Vitale: [3G Science overview]
	*  Michele Punturo:  Overview of the ET design and next steps on the ET roadmap
	*  Harald Lueck:
	*  Stefan Hild: [Slides for starting of discussion]
	*  Humboldt Foundation (not …</description>
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        <description>discussed together with suspensions. See https://gilsay.physics.gla.ac.uk/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=et_update_2017:sus-materials-update

Silicon still prime candidate for cryo @ 20K and 120 K. 

Technically doable (45 cm size, purity), but how to obtain it.

Silicon TPA ok for high power operation @ 1550 nm.</description>
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        <description>Different configurations
   10-20K    120K (Voyager style)  300K (ET-HF)   Material  Silicon  Sapphire  Silicon  Silica   Intra cavity power  18kW  18kW  3MW  3MW   Mass  200kg  200kg  200kg  200kg   Wavelength  1.5-2um  1064nm  1.5-2um  1064nm   Remarks   Less progress in silicon research than expected before, costly and not sure if industry will supply it  Absorption challenging (KAGRA issues)         Pro   better for cryogenic  Can use 1064 with sapphire  Cheaper and easier from cryo standpoi…</description>
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        <description>TCS

	*  What thermal lensing @ 120K?
	*  back of the envelope calculation
	*  
	*  TCS design must: robust, flexible
	*  Actuators
		* 	RHs:

	*  Ok with room temperature TMs, what with cryogenics?
	*  AdV design optimized to have the best uniformity:for ET segmented RH for higher order aberrations control (astigmatism)?
		*  Recycling cavity projectors:</description>
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        <description>*  [Slides_no_xylo]
	*  [120K coating update]

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